Tuesday, March 22, 2011

La Sportiva Crosslite 2.0: Initial Impressions

Background

About a month ago I was fortunate enough to win a pair of La Sportiva Crosslite shoes in one of iRunFar.com's giveaway contests. I actually already owned a pair, so I figured I'd just stick the new pair in the closet for the time being. When the package arrived from La Sportiva, however, I discovered that what they had sent me was the Crosslite 2.0. Curious as to what the differences were, I browsed over to the La Sportiva web site. La Sportiva describes the 2.0 as essentially the original plus some cushioning for "extra protection and comfort on longer runs". At the time I did not think these differences would amount to much. However, after putting some miles on the shoes I have come to conclude otherwise, and I thought I'd share my observations. But before I get into the 2.0, I want to (briefly) describe my experience with both the original Crosslite and the La Sportiva Wildcat, since I will use these shoes as points of reference and comparison for the Crosslite 2.0.

The Wildcat and Original Crosslite

I first tried the Wildcats after an initially promising but ultimately failed experiment with another brand of shoe. And it turned out to be fortuitous, because the Wildcats are, for me, a great trail running shoe: Grippy, breathable, and comfortable enough to wear for hours on end. I just love 'em. They are my go-to shoe for anything longer than a couple hours. I used them for several trail races in 2010 as well as the Salida Trail Marathon earlier this month.

I picked up my Crosslites back in October with the hope that the large, widely-spaced lugs would make them ideal for winter trail running. They have indeed performed admirably in the muddy, sloppy, slushy, icy, and snowy conditions that constitute winter trail running in Northern NM. And as many other reviewers of this shoe have pointed out, they just feel light and fast. You can't help but want to crank things up when you're wearing these. I wore them a couple months ago in the Corrida de los Locos cross-country race and they performed great.

My trusted companions: Wildcats (left) and Crosslites (right)
I like to think of these two shoes as a sedan (the Wildcat) and a sports car (the Crosslite): one for long trips, and one for getting out and just having fun.

Quick note on sizing: My normal shoe size is 9-9.5. I prefer a 42.5 in the Wildcat but a 43 in the Crosslite since it's a little narrower through the midfoot.

The Crosslite 2.0

When I first pulled the Crosslite 2.0 out of the box, my first thought was, yikes that's a mean lookin' shoe:

La Sportiva Crosslite 2.0 after a few miles
Just holding it, the 2.0 feels like the original Crosslite on steroids. Everything from the tongue to the midsole to the heel support is more rugged. Even the upper material seems to be thicker. There's no shortage of foot protection.

The 2.0 retains the cover over the laces but a slightly larger toe bumper
Lacing them up, the same basic Crosslite fit is there, but there are also some differences that can be noticed before you ever even start running. The increased cushioning in the midsole is rather obvious, even just walking around the house. The 2.0 also has more arch support. All of this contributes to a shoe that just feels more substantial on your foot - although ironically the weights are essentially the same, something I confirmed with my kitchen scale.

Once I started putting miles on them, however, the differences really started to reveal themselves. For starters, as one might expect, the added cushioning dampens and reduces ground feedback. Some folks will like that and others won't. I appreciated the cushioning when running on rocks and packed snow/ice, as well as short pavement sections. With the original, I can very definitely feel the outsole lugs pressing through the midsole into the bottom of my feet when running on a hard surface. With the 2.0, this sensation is considerably reduced. On the other hand, there are plenty of times when more intimate contact with the running surface provides useful feedback.

The increased midsole thickness of the 2.0 also changes the ride by putting your foot a touch higher off the ground. For me this was most noticeable when cornering hard. The 2.0 never felt out of control, but I could sense more lateral motion of my foot compared to the original.

The thicker midsole of the 2.0 is readily apparent
The traction and midfoot fit are all Crosslite. On steep technical descents, the 2.0 gripped my foot and the ground just like the original. I had no qualms about bombing down rocky, twisty singletrack at high speed in these shoes. On snow and ice they also performed great and again gave me the same secure footing I get with the original. I have not tested them in hot weather yet but my suspicion is that the 2.0 will be less breathable than the original due to the heavier upper material. Even in the moderate temperatures we've had recently I can tell that my feet are warmer in the 2.0 than they are in either the original or the Wildcats.

The 2.0 features a larger and more supportive heel cup
According to the specs, the 2.0 has less heel lift than both the original and the Wildcat. I've seen some variation in the absolute numbers, but best I can tell the relative heel-to-toe drop is 8mm for the 2.0, versus 10mm for the original and 12mm for the Wildcat. Given the magnitude of the other differences between the 2.0 and the original, I didn't really notice this aspect.

Overall, I would say that the 2.0 actually rides and feels a lot like the Wildcat underfoot. I want to say that I get a bit more ground feel in the Wildcat than the 2.0. However, I'm not convinced yet that I'm actually feeling that rather than just imagining it. Otherwise it's more or less the same comfortable feeling that I love about the Wildcat just with a different fit: You don't necessarily feel like running fast, but you definitely feel like you could run all day and your feet wouldn't object.

Conclusions

So what is the role for this shoe? The original Crosslite has received significant praise for its low profile and fast feel. If that is what you are looking for in a shoe, I think the original is still the better choice. However, if you like the fit and traction of the Crosslite but want something that is more cushioned, rugged, and/or protective, the 2.0 might just be the ticket.... especially if you don't want the weight of the beefier La Sportiva shoes like the Wildcat, Raptor, or Fireblade. In that regard I think La Sportiva's description is accurate, but incomplete: yes, the 2.0 is most definitely a more cushioned Crosslite, but that comes at the expense of a modified ride.

Now none of this should be taken to imply that I have a negative opinion of this shoe, because that is definitely not the case. I like the concept of a shoe that rides like my Wildcat but saves me an ounce or two of weight on each foot, and the more I wear it the more I like it. If I do have an issue it's really the name of the shoe more than anything else. To me, the use of the designator "2.0" implies a new and improved shoe, something that keeps the characteristics of the original while addressing any flaws. I don't think that that is what La Sportiva has done here.... and to be fair I don't know if that was their intent. In the end it's a great shoe regardless of the name, but if you pick up a pair thinking it's a new and improved Crosslite you might be a little disappointed.

Followup 5/29/11

As I mentioned in one of my comments the shoes have unfortunately developed tears in the upper where the rubberized upper material meets the rest of the upper. The shoe flexes heavily at this point and I believe the seamless interface between the two materials caused the fabric to fail. I would estimate mileage at 100-150. Below are some pictures that show the issue.

Inside left shoe

Inside right shoe

Outside right shoe
And one more 28 mile run later and the shoe is basically destroyed at this point. Very disappointing.


Note the hole in the right shoe's toe box (as if it's hard to miss)

Yes it goes all the way through
Follow up 7/1/11

After contacting La Sportiva I sent them the shoes. They evaluated them and sent me a replacement pair under their warranty policy. I have not run in the new pair yet but will start working them into my rotation and we'll see what happens.

10 comments:

  1. Just stumbled across your blog, and it's great! I'm new to the area, and actually just going to be here one year. I've run/hiked a lot of the routes you've covered, and have loved them.

    Question for you (not related to the topic of this post): Have you ever run what I'm going to call a Pecos-Wilderness traverse, starting from the Pecos side, cruising by Lake Katherine, and ending up at the base of the ski hill? A buddy of mine were thinking of trying that this summer...probably from Cowles up Winsor to Lake Katherine & continuing to the ski hill parking lot. Any thoughts on that? Doable?

    Thanks!

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  2. Ef. I just saw your "Sangres Crossing" post. Nevermind. Thanks!

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  3. I have not been on the section of trail between (roughly) lake Stewart and Lake Katherine... looks like a bit of a grind but a high-country lakes tour hitting Stewart, Katherine, Spirit, and maybe even Johnson would be a nice run. An alternative to starting in Cowles would be to start at Holy Ghost. You'd end up at the meadow pictured in my post and connect with the Winsor trail there. I think the climb up would be shorter and steeper that way, but I'm not sure about the total distance off the top of my head.

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  4. Hi great review , I currently have the crosslites and have been looking at the 2.0 as a replacement. How would you say the two compare in regards to toe box width and around the heal?

    Thanks

    Mike

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  5. Mike, couple things.

    First, the heel and toe box width seem more or less identical there. At least I can't tell the difference.

    Second, and this is unfortunate, is that after about 100-150 miles the upper has a bit of an issue. Due to flexing at that seam between the toe cap and the rest of the upper, the cap has caused a cut in the outer upper material. It's about half an inch to an inch long, and it's on both sides of both shoes. The inner upper material is still intact, so it does not go all the way through.

    Given that I won these shoes I'm not sweating it too much, and I certainly don't think it affects performance. But I would be concerned about durability. I tend to wear my shoes until the tread wears down and I suspect that on this one the upper is going to fail completely first.

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  6. Had the EXACT thing happen with my Crosslite 2.0's. La Sportiva replaced them and that pair did the same thing after about 100 miles. The original Crosslites (v1.0) never did that, although the toe bumper adhevise failed, but I just cut the protruding tongue of the front of the toe. Not certain what is going on with the new 2.0 but it ain't working from a quality perspective. I'm sponsored throught them via WSG, so I didn't pay for any of the shoes, thankfully. Still, I can't find anything better. May have to go back to the v1.0 while they're still around--more slipper-like.

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  7. Larry, you're the third or fourth person to tell me that the same thing happened to their 2.0s.

    I have about 35 miles on my replacement pair and, while they haven't torn yet, the fabric is already showing signs of stress.

    I'm not going to send this pair back if/when it fails. I didn't pay for the shoe either, but if this keeps up it won't be long before my UPS tab exceeds the cost of the shoe.

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  8. I'm wearing the new skylite 2.0 (very similar upper construction) and after about 35-40 miles the fabric is showing signs of distress in the same location as in the pic. They are very comfortable and I was going to get a pair of crosslite 2.0...but I don't know at this point.
    Eddy

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  9. Eddy,

    Thanks for sharing your experience. It would seem that all of their shoes with this type of upper construction are susceptible to the problem.

    My second pair of Crosslite 2.0s has developed tears just like my first, somewhere around 100-150 miles. I can't say whether it affects the performance of the shoe or not, but I no longer trust it not to fail catastrophically during a race or long run, so I've basically relegated it to recovery days at this point. I'll keep using it in that role until it falls apart or the tread wears down.

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  10. I had the same thing happen with a pair of the La Sportiva Quantums. There is a serious design flaw in the toe box construction. The first pair I received had a dimpling right where the upper and the toe box rubber come together (on both the left and right shoes) and it pressed against my pinky and big toes. I expected them to stretch out, which never happened, and after less than 100 miles I returned them. La Sportiva customer service is excellent but the quality of their newer models leaves a lot to be desired. This is coming from someone that owns the Crosslite, Raptor, Fireblade, and Crosslite GTX.

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